「人の生活に忍び込むような仕事が好き」番組ナビゲーター・川田十夢さんは、以前の番組出演時以来の森本さんの活躍を踏まえ「もはや、広告の人でもないですよね。今、自己紹介するときは何て名乗ってるんですか？」と質問。すると森本さんは「魅力製造家。最初はアートディレクターで、その後2010年頃コミュニケーションディレクターって言って。途中、旅人、画家とか普通（の肩書き）に戻ったりして。今は魅力製造家。人の魅力を製造する（意味合い）」と、自身の肩書きを紹介。そんな森本さんが前回の出演時から現在に至るまで携わった事例についてもトーク。東京・二子玉川の商業施設「二子玉川ライズ」のクリスマスツリーを「三年くらい」、二子玉川で開催の「子供の映画祭」である「キネコ国際映画祭」を「毎年やっていて」、さらに同じく二子玉川にある保育園「はじまり はじまり えん niko」のデザインに携わるなど、「あの辺に私のデザインが生息していますね」という森本さん。%3Cblockquote%20class%3D%22instagram-media%22%20data-instgrm-permalink%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fp%2FDQb76c7ieB2%2F%3Futm_source%3Dig_embed%26amp%3Butm_campaign%3Dloading%22%20data-instgrm-version%3D%2214%22%20style%3D%22%20background%3A%23FFF%3B%20border%3A0%3B%20border-radius%3A3px%3B%20box-shadow%3A0%200%201px%200%20rgba(0%2C0%2C0%2C0.5)%2C0%201px%2010px%200%20rgba(0%2C0%2C0%2C0.15)%3B%20margin%3A%201px%3B%20max-width%3A540px%3B%20min-width%3A326px%3B%20padding%3A0%3B%20width%3A99.375%25%3B%20width%3A-webkit-calc(100%25%20-%202px)%3B%20width%3Acalc(100%25%20-%202px)%3B%22%3E%3Cdiv%20style%3D%22padding%3A16px%3B%22%3E%20%3Ca%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fp%2FDQb76c7ieB2%2F%3Futm_source%3Dig_embed%26amp%3Butm_campaign%3Dloading%22%20style%3D%22%20background%3A%23FFFFFF%3B%20line-height%3A0%3B%20padding%3A0%200%3B%20text-align%3Acenter%3B%20text-decoration%3Anone%3B%20width%3A100%25%3B%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%20%3Cdiv%20style%3D%22%20display%3A%20flex%3B%20flex-direction%3A%20row%3B%20align-items%3A%20center%3B%22%3E%20%3Cdiv%20style%3D%22background-color%3A%20%23F4F4F4%3B%20border-radius%3A%2050%25%3B%20flex-grow%3A%200%3B%20height%3A%2040px%3B%20margin-right%3A%2014px%3B%20width%3A%2040px%3B%22%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%20%3Cdiv%20style%3D%22display%3A%20flex%3B%20flex-direction%3A%20column%3B%20flex-grow%3A%201%3B%20justify-content%3A%20center%3B%22%3E%20%3Cdiv%20style%3D%22%20background-color%3A%20%23F4F4F4%3B%20border-radius%3A%204px%3B%20flex-grow%3A%200%3B%20height%3A%2014px%3B%20margin-bottom%3A%206px%3B%20width%3A%20100px%3B%22%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%20%3Cdiv%20style%3D%22%20background-color%3A%20%23F4F4F4%3B%20border-radius%3A%204px%3B%20flex-grow%3A%200%3B%20height%3A%2014px%3B%20width%3A%2060px%3B%22%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%3Cdiv%20style%3D%22padding%3A%2019%25%200%3B%22%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%20%3Cdiv%20style%3D%22display%3Ablock%3B%20height%3A50px%3B%20margin%3A0%20auto%2012px%3B%20width%3A50px%3B%22%3E%3Csvg%20width%3D%2250px%22%20height%3D%2250px%22%20viewBox%3D%220%200%2060%2060%22%20version%3D%221.1%22%20xmlns%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%22%20xmlns%3Axlink%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F1999%2Fxlink%22%3E%3Cg%20stroke%3D%22none%22%20stroke-width%3D%221%22%20fill%3D%22none%22%20fill-rule%3D%22evenodd%22%3E%3Cg%20transform%3D%22translate(-511.000000%2C%20-20.000000)%22%20fill%3D%22%23000000%22%3E%3Cg%3E%3Cpath%20d%3D%22M556.869%2C30.41%20C554.814%2C30.41%20553.148%2C32.076%20553.148%2C34.131%20C553.148%2C36.186%20554.814%2C37.852%20556.869%2C37.852%20C558.924%2C37.852%20560.59%2C36.186%20560.59%2C34.131%20C560.59%2C32.076%20558.924%2C30.41%20556.869%2C30.41%20M541%2C60.657%20C535.114%2C60.657%20530.342%2C55.887%20530.342%2C50%20C530.342%2C44.114%20535.114%2C39.342%20541%2C39.342%20C546.887%2C39.342%20551.658%2C44.114%20551.658%2C50%20C551.658%2C55.887%20546.887%2C60.657%20541%2C60.657%20M541%2C33.886%20C532.1%2C33.886%20524.886%2C41.1%20524.886%2C50%20C524.886%2C58.899%20532.1%2C66.113%20541%2C66.113%20C549.9%2C66.113%20557.115%2C58.899%20557.115%2C50%20C557.115%2C41.1%20549.9%2C33.886%20541%2C33.886%20M565.378%2C62.101%20C565.244%2C65.022%20564.756%2C66.606%20564.346%2C67.663%20C563.803%2C69.06%20563.154%2C70.057%20562.106%2C71.106%20C561.058%2C72.155%20560.06%2C72.803%20558.662%2C73.347%20C557.607%2C73.757%20556.021%2C74.244%20553.102%2C74.378%20C549.944%2C74.521%20548.997%2C74.552%20541%2C74.552%20C533.003%2C74.552%20532.056%2C74.521%20528.898%2C74.378%20C525.979%2C74.244%20524.393%2C73.757%20523.338%2C73.347%20C521.94%2C72.803%20520.942%2C72.155%20519.894%2C71.106%20C518.846%2C70.057%20518.197%2C69.06%20517.654%2C67.663%20C517.244%2C66.606%20516.755%2C65.022%20516.623%2C62.101%20C516.479%2C58.943%20516.448%2C57.996%20516.448%2C50%20C516.448%2C42.003%20516.479%2C41.056%20516.623%2C37.899%20C516.755%2C34.978%20517.244%2C33.391%20517.654%2C32.338%20C518.197%2C30.938%20518.846%2C29.942%20519.894%2C28.894%20C520.942%2C27.846%20521.94%2C27.196%20523.338%2C26.654%20C524.393%2C26.244%20525.979%2C25.756%20528.898%2C25.623%20C532.057%2C25.479%20533.004%2C25.448%20541%2C25.448%20C548.997%2C25.448%20549.943%2C25.479%20553.102%2C25.623%20C556.021%2C25.756%20557.607%2C26.244%20558.662%2C26.654%20C560.06%2C27.196%20561.058%2C27.846%20562.106%2C28.894%20C563.154%2C29.942%20563.803%2C30.938%20564.346%2C32.338%20C564.756%2C33.391%20565.244%2C34.978%20565.378%2C37.899%20C565.522%2C41.056%20565.552%2C42.003%20565.552%2C50%20C565.552%2C57.996%20565.522%2C58.943%20565.378%2C62.101%20M570.82%2C37.631%20C570.674%2C34.438%20570.167%2C32.258%20569.425%2C30.349%20C568.659%2C28.377%20567.633%2C26.702%20565.965%2C25.035%20C564.297%2C23.368%20562.623%2C22.342%20560.652%2C21.575%20C558.743%2C20.834%20556.562%2C20.326%20553.369%2C20.18%20C550.169%2C20.033%20549.148%2C20%20541%2C20%20C532.853%2C20%20531.831%2C20.033%20528.631%2C20.18%20C525.438%2C20.326%20523.257%2C20.834%20521.349%2C21.575%20C519.376%2C22.342%20517.703%2C23.368%20516.0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の生活の一部というか、誰がデザインしてたっけ？なんて、どうでもいいというぐらい生活の一部がいいです」と語ります。そのほかにも、NHK 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2%3E%3C%2Fscript%3EアナログとAI「両方が混ざり込んでる大作」に挑戦後半では、そんな森本さんが「20年に一回あるかないかぐらいのハードさですね」と語る、現在携わっているプロジェクトについてトーク。川田さんともコラボレーションし進めているようで、森本さんは「今やりたいプロジェクトが、ある音楽のアートワーク」「アナログな撮影をしたり、グラフィックを作ったりすることとは別で、川田さんのAIの音楽の作品を見てその創造力に感動して、（AIを）否定したり線を引くことじゃなくて、想像力を持って、AIと共に表現していくというのもやっぱりいいと思ったので、その両方が混ざり込んでいる大作を作ってみたくて」と、そのプロジェクトについて語ります。制作の体制としては「12,13人くらいのカメラマン」、「文字のプロフェッショナル」、「写真を何枚も切ってコマ撮りするような映像作家」に加えて川田さんに「AIで入ってもらって」といい、「まぜこぜだから、どこまでが本当で、どこまでが嘘なのか、嘘のような本当の撮影。本当の撮影の方がもしかしたら嘘で、一枚の本当にあった写真から動いていく過去や未来、過去が動き出すことの方が真実かもしれないということが、あの音楽と共に動くと最高ですよね」と森本さん。「螺旋」のイメージをどう表現するか川田さんはこの作品の背景として、題材となる音楽はもちろん、それぞれが家庭を持ち、お子さんが産まれたという私生活での経験についても言及。「ぐるぐる、螺旋。そのニュアンスのイメージがそもそもあったじゃないですか。経験したり思っていたことを、今形にしないでどうするんだという」と語り、森本さんも「親のこと、またその親のこと、自分の娘のこと、娘の未来のこととか、どこが軸で中心点になるのかわからないような、くるくるくるくる…って本当に、DNAの螺旋」と、森本さんと川田さんはこのようなことをかねてから会話していたことを明かします。それを「可視化してみるという挑戦なので、本当大変です！（笑）」と森本さん。川田さんも「作っている過程で森本さんがそれをほのめかしたり、自分で自分を褒めるみたいなことを「森本さんはあまりやってきてないから、本当に今、精魂尽くしてるんだろうなって思う」とその力の入れ具合に太鼓判。「めちゃめちゃ自分を褒めてあげてますよ。11月半ばぐらいから毎日朝撮影して、毎日娘の…それがまた娘がね、なかなか宿題やらずに寝るので（笑）。普通の母親として宿題をさせて、主人もマイペース。家事、洗濯…いつも通りの、家が健やかに進んでいくために軌道修正しなきゃいけないあれやこれをやりながら、犬も二匹いるから犬のお世話をしながら、その後に夜明けまで、すごく細かい作業を」していると明かした森本さん。「博報堂時代以降は自分でパソコンを触らないようにしていた」「手作りとかコラージュとか手技にして、デザイナーにやってもらって、指示して全体をディレクションする」という創作をしていた中で、「『今回は自分でやる』って、ノートパソコンまで買っちゃいましたよ」とのこと。そんな状況を「楽しんでいる場合じゃなくて、そろそろ納品しなきゃいけないので（笑）。それには川田さんの力が必要。絶対、皆さんには楽しみにしていてほしい。川田さんがそこにどう表現を掛け算していくのか、私もすっごく楽しみです」と森本さん。%3Ciframe%20width%3D%22560%22%20height%3D%22315%22%20src%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fembed%2FrI0Nk9iQscU%3Fsi%3D833ObjntuPw3t5kA%22%20title%3D%22YouTube%20video%20player%22%20frameborder%3D%220%22%20allow%3D%22accelerometer%3B%20autoplay%3B%20clipboard-write%3B%20encrypted-media%3B%20gyroscope%3B%20picture-in-picture%3B%20web-share%22%20referrerpolicy%3D%22strict-origin-when-cross-origin%22%20allowfullscreen%3E%3C%2Fiframe%3E森本さんはさらに「Mr.Childrenのニューアルバム『産声』が来年3月発売と、2026年のツアー開催。そして今新しいアーティスト写真や、そのアルバムをワクワクと楽しみにするスタートの映像が公開されております！それを私も一緒に生み出しているうちの一人です。勘のいい方は先ほどのお話をつなげて考えてもらえれば」と語りました。自身を切り取った一言は「ごえんのかたまり」「親しき仲にもレベルあり」「Morisawa Fonts ROAD TO INNOVATION」では、ゲストに「自分自身の考えを自ら切り取る言葉」を訊ね、その言葉を、ゲストお気に入りのフォントとともに紹介しています。森本さんは二つ言葉を用意。まずは「ごえんのかたまり」という言葉で、フォントについては「濁点を結構大事にしていて、ひらがなの点々が綺麗なんです。ひらがなの点々、濁点の位置って絶妙な距離があってよく調整するんですけど、これはすごい綺麗」と「解ミン 宙」をセレクト。もう一つの言葉は「親しき仲にもレベルあり」。「デザイナーだけじゃなくて、家族も含めてみんなで表現していくことが大好きなんです。ただそれが内輪受けで自分たちだけが楽しいということじゃなくて、しっかりと人に届ける、人を動かすぐらいのクオリティになっていかなければいけないデザインを勉強してきた責任が私にはあるので、きっちり、ちゃんと、クオリティを保ちながら楽しんでいくということを大事にしているんです」と自身の仕事観を明かしました。「だからスキルはどんどん磨きたいし、まだまだ勉強していかなきゃいけないことがたくさんあるし、川田さんからもAIを学びたいので。どんどん技術は身につけたいですね。親しき仲にもレベルありのレベルを上げていきたい」と明かしてくれました。そして、こちらの一言を表現するフォントは「新聞特太明朝」。「新聞明朝、好きなんです。ローマ字のフォントとか、映画の昔のポスターだと長体にすることが多いんですけど、日本だとやっぱり新聞の縦書きの部分から、平体というか、ちょっと平（ひら）がかかってるじゃないですか。平がかかってるんだけど、平に適しててひらがなが美しくて。きっちりをスペースを収めながらも、小さくなってもちゃんと見やすいフォルムを綺麗に研究しているのが新聞明朝」と、「新聞明朝」フォントの魅力を語りました。PODCAST | 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